Hunting Feeder Setup | Land Prep | Eric Vanfossen

Reese and Scott sit down with their good friend Eric Vanfossen to talk about the evolution of the custom deer feeder Eric has been designing and perfecting for years—and why it continues to outperform standard setups. From its effectiveness to the real-world results in the field, Eric shares insights every hunter will appreciate.

The conversation doesn’t stop there. The guys also recap their 7-hour day in the woods—cutting limbs, blowing lanes, moving stands, and building complete feeder sets with cameras. It’s the kind of work that separates a good season from a great one, and they share plenty of tips along the way.

Packed with reputable knowledge and hands-on experience, this episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to dial in that perfect setup in the deer woods.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00: 0:27

What's up, guys? Welcome to another episode of the Seek and Find Podcast. We are sitting around the fire, North Mississippi. We recorded two podcasts last night, and now we worked all day. All day. Yeah. And now we're sitting by the fire. Got some awesome sausage, venison sausage in front of us. And if you guys if you guys want to see some clips of what we did today, um in the description below, you will see uh the link to the episode on Seek and Find TV on YouTube. And you'll be able to go over there and watch all the craziness we got into today, feeders and stands.

SPEAKER_01: 1:18

And if you want to buy it if I feeders, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:22

Hey, oh all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna get a marketplace going for for Eric's feeders.

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By the way, Eric, yeah, we we should advertise this sausage. This their sauce is amazing. Who wants to do that?

SPEAKER_02: 1:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 1:33

Alright, so this is a buddy of mine I went to high school with from down in Jones County, Mississippi. Jones County, so way down there in South Mississippi. And uh started processing his own deer meat and it turned into that right there, what you got in front of you. Yeah, he went commercial with his smoked sausage, and it is awesome. Guy named uh Eric Hinton at H H processing.

SPEAKER_01: 2:00

H H around Jones County, South Mississippi, and you want some deer process, yeah, go hit him up because he got us some fine stuff right there. For sure. So putting it on my hat. I'll just I'll just look at you if I want to talk. Just look right at me, Reese. Stare me in the eye if I want to talk to you.

SPEAKER_04: 2:23

So we're having a little bit of mic problems here. I'm I'm the third wheel here, and I'm throwing a monkey wrench in everything.

SPEAKER_00: 2:29

This is my mic problems. I just have to speak loud and I'll I'll make it happen. So um, let's actually miss just my so we're gonna start this podcast off by talking about the feeder situation today. So if you guys haven't seen once again, click the link below, you'll see the episode. But we had some feeders that we put up, and they are they're top notch, but they're they're they're made for a purpose. Like they're made not to break, they're made not to, you know, get faded and and dry rot from the sun. They were made for a reason. They're made because they're homemade. Eric really just yeah, Eric just wants to make something that don't break.

SPEAKER_01: 3:16

So, Eric, if you want, let's talk into the feeder system, what it would cost.

SPEAKER_00: 3:23

Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_01: 3:24

The cost to put one together, he paints them up and camouflage them everything. You can go the whole nine yards with it, but basically it's just a a garbage can.

SPEAKER_04: 3:32

It is, it's it's a garbage can with a feeder motor on the bottom of it. Uh, so what happened was uh where I hunt in South Mississippi is nothing but pine trees and old cutovers. The only place that we had oak trees with uh acorns dropping off of them on the deer leaves that I grew up hunting were along creeks. Uh, you know, they the logging companies can only cut so close to a creek. And that was the only place that we had. Yeah, it's it's three letters and see a bee or something.

SPEAKER_01: 4:10

But the they couldn't cut it because it's too low and too wet or whatever. Right, right. That's a neighbor. Oh, the neighbor's coming in. In a hurry, too.

SPEAKER_00: 4:19

Been gone all day. They got the road fixer, like we're gonna get there. That was like two vehicles.

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That's one. That's one.

SPEAKER_00: 4:28

Yeah. I don't know what they're saying, but anyways.

SPEAKER_01: 4:33

Yeah, so the whole premise comes from that hog hunting. Right, well hunting deer.

SPEAKER_04: 4:39

Well, like I said, we we have we we essentially had to start supplemental feeding just to be able to draw deer out of these these giant cutovers and try to get them where we want them because you know you can't pile a bunch of guys on one creek bottom to hunt in a deer club. So we started clearing lanes, making food plots, and at just about every food plot we would have one of these broadcast feeders. Well, we started with actually uh Moultrie a long time ago made a metal five-gallon bucket with a spin cast feeder on the bottom of it. It was not. Uh the the original ones that we had up there, they were they were exactly a five-gallon bucket, like a paint can, a metal five-gallon bucket with uh that broadcast feeder on the bottom of it. And we started off with, you know, those five-gallon buckets, they didn't weigh a whole lot. They wouldn't hold, but I can't remember really, maybe 50 pounds of corn. And you could you could hold you could pull the the bucket up by a rope by just throwing a rope over a tree limb and haul it up by hand. Well, you had to refill the thing every week. And uh that that turned into a problem. Having to go to the deer camp every week, fill feeders. So we went to these 250-pound tripod feeders. Well, on the lease that I was on in Jasper County, we had a lot of wild hogs. And the wild hogs, you know, they they root to feed, they they root up the ground, they dig holes, uh, and they would get underneath these tripod feeders and they would spread the legs on them, trying to root the corn out of the ground to the point that they would be huge mud holes under these feeders, and they would spread the legs to the point that the feeder would fall over. Wow. So I started, of course, putting feet on the feeders, on the on the legs of the feeders to keep the feet from sinking down in the ground.

SPEAKER_01: 6:39

And trying to get it up elevated.

SPEAKER_04: 6:41

Trying to, yeah, I would put uh I would put stakes in the ground to try to keep the legs from spreading. Well, the hogs would root the stakes up, and then I started tying cables around the legs to try to keep them from spreading. Well, the hogs would just root under the cable and flip the feeder over then. You know, that was a leverage point for them.

SPEAKER_03: 6:59

Yeah, they can figure that stuff out too.

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So, yeah, if you if you don't have hogs on your land and you think you want some because it would be cool to hunt hogs, you are sadly mistaken, my friend.

SPEAKER_01: 7:10

Taught me something when we were stationed together at the firehouse. I was never around a lot of hogs out here. Obviously, there's some west if you go a little bit, but I heard about them growing up and stuff, never had any encounters with them and stuff. But he was like he was like, you know, your hog's the smartest animal in the woods. I grew up thinking that's the dumbest thing that ever walked the face of the earth. He's like, Oh no. They're smart, they figure stuff out, they can they can get out of anything that you put them in if you leave them there long enough. And I was like, Really? And come to find out he's they are they're problem solvers.

SPEAKER_04: 7:48

And most people don't understand that. They're problem solvers and they learn from each other's mistakes. They learn from their own mistakes, obviously, but they'd learn from one another. Uh those things, anything we put down in those woods in Jasper County, they would figure out a way to tear it up to their benefit. Whether it be a feeder, uh trap, anything. We went through trials and errors on traps like you wouldn't believe. It took, we built our own traps. Look, I'm a I'm a I'm a poor country boy from South Mississippi, so pretty much everything I've ever had, whether it be deer stands, feeders, hog traps, it's homemade. Everything is homemade, which is leading up to this uh this feeder that I showed you guys today. So uh, yeah, we went through probably five different traps before we found one that would actually keep these hogs in it long enough for us to get up there and check it because uh man, they would dig out from underneath it, they would climb out of it, they would tear them apart, all kind of crazy stuff. Uh so anyway, these feeders to hog proof our feeders, we started hanging, we we we built a winch system essentially. If you guys watched the episode that Reese told you about, uh we started off by throwing a rope over a low-hanging branch, and we attached a winch to the bottom of that tree. And uh the the the tree, the I'm sorry, the rope that we threw over the low-hanging branch would have a pulley on it. We run another rope through the pulley and down to a winch, use the winch to pick up a 200-pound drum of corn with a broadcast feeder on the bottom of it, and that worked really good. Same thing, uh Moultrie and a few other brands, they were making these 200-pound feeders out of uh what is this stuff, polypropylene polybarrels, plastic barrels? Right. Well, they worked okay, and uh they kept the hogs away from them. They obviously lasted a lot longer because they had 200 pounds of corn in them than the old five-gallon buckets like I was talking about. But across the summer, if you didn't take your feeders down, squirrels would chew holes in the top of them.

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Wow.

SPEAKER_04: 9:58

So I got tired of the squirrels chewing holes in the top of my feeders and I started looking for metal feeders, and nobody makes them. So I go to Lowe's and I get just a plain metal trash can with a lid. And I drill a hole through the top of the lid, I mean through the top of the trash can and run a shaft through it to hang the drum by. I put just uh any broadcast feeder, whatever your favorite brand is, whatever style you want, put that broadcast feeder on the bottom of it, and then go through the the same process. Throw a rope over a limb with a pulley, winch this trash can up, and now you've got it up off the ground to where hogs can't mess with it. Squirrels can't do anything with this metal all.

SPEAKER_01: 10:45

If you hang it, breaking their teeth off.

SPEAKER_04: 10:47

Yeah, they yeah, they don't mess with them. Uh if you hang it about four to five feet away from the trunk of the tree, then coons won't jump on it and spin the feeder. You know, that was another thing we ran into with the tripod feeders. Coons would climb up them and spin the feeder and empty the empty the drum, you know. But uh also what we found out, you know, kind of accidentally and trying to keep the hogs out of our stuff and keep the squirrels out of our stuff, all the varmints, we figured out that these feeders hanging from ropes. 20 foot up versus 20, yeah, well, uh 20 foot kind of structure. We go 15 foot.

SPEAKER_01: 11:23

Yeah.

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Uh a feeder 15 foot in the air versus seven feet in the air on a tripod, yeah, the deer don't really pay much attention to it.

SPEAKER_03: 11:32

Right.

SPEAKER_01: 11:32

It's kind of the same as it's not like walking up to a gravity feeder getting something out of it. Exactly.

SPEAKER_04: 11:38

It's not pile of corn on the ground.

SPEAKER_01: 11:40

It's everywhere.

SPEAKER_04: 11:41

It's spreading the corn over about uh probably about a 20 or 30 foot circle away from this feeder. That well, that's probably being that's probably being kind of modest. It's probably more like 40 feet, but anyway, uh it's the same premise as getting up in a tall tree stand, the deer aren't really going to pay much attention to what's way over their head. You know, they've got that linear vision where they're looking across the horizon more so than up.

SPEAKER_01: 12:06

And it's more natural, right? That thing goes off for however many seconds you set it at, and now it's broadcasting corn out. So instead of piling it up, it spread, Lord, how how the one that we got. It's dad gum, it's 20 yards on every side of it. So it's probably a 40 yard radius around that thing.

SPEAKER_04: 12:27

That's a good ways.

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It's throwing it out there.

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And the the higher you get it up in the tree, obviously the further it it throws the corn.

SPEAKER_01: 12:34

So and and deer browsers. So instead of coming to a pile, it's like they're over there eating acorns.

SPEAKER_04: 12:41

Yeah, they're it's like they're picking up acorns.

SPEAKER_00: 12:46

How much did the rope the feeder, the satellite charger, the if you know, and the ratchet, uh not the ratchet, we we did this earlier.

SPEAKER_01: 13:02

The whole setup.

SPEAKER_00: 13:03

The whole setup. What I showed today on the episode. What are you thinking?

SPEAKER_04: 13:08

Okay. Well, I'm I'm not real good at math, so we'll talk this out. Uh, so a trash can at Lowe's. I think you will have about, best I remember, it's been it's been several months since I've made one, and metal goes up and down. But uh the best I remember, uh, metal trash can at Lowe's is about 40 bucks. Okay, then you've got say 60. That is a 40 gallon. 40 gallon. I think it's a 40. Yeah, it holds 40 or 50 gallons. It holds 200 pounds of corn.

SPEAKER_03: 13:39

Yep, four bags.

SPEAKER_04: 13:40

That's level four. All right, so you're 40 40 bucks on the the trash can, uh, about 60 bucks on the motor, so there's a hundred. Uh you're about 20 bucks worth of rope, about 20 bucks worth of well, the uh the pulley and the winch. So now we're what we're at 140.

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Yeah.

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Uh and then the shaft that goes through the top, if you'll go to a an industrial supply store, if you have an industrial supply close by, you can go there and get the stuff a lot cheaper. That's where I go. Time and laurel. Uh, we've got an industrial supply that I buy that shaft that hangs from it, or that it hangs from. Uh, you're looking at 10 bucks for that shaft. Yeah. So for about 150 bucks, yeah, you're in this essentially 100% under 200 bucks going to get this amazing setup.

SPEAKER_00: 14:37

For something that lasts longer than you know the plastic hang up for one season kind of thing.

SPEAKER_04: 14:43

Yeah, I I left one thing off. I forgot about the the$20 solar charger. Yeah, it's a good thing. Okay, so so now we're at$170.$170 with a solar charger.

SPEAKER_01: 14:50

Under$200 all day long.

SPEAKER_04: 14:52

And you're looking at something the way you if you set this thing upright as far as the timing of the feeding, these things will last six weeks.

SPEAKER_01: 14:59

Bro, we had corn on the ground when I went in there. This was coming back the next season. We filled it up. Seven months. Yeah. We came back. We had it set by the side. Yeah, I turned it way up. Turned it way up. I came back in there this year to to check everything out, get ready for bow season. I'm like, there's there's a little bit of corn on the ground. Like, where's this coming from? Well, it's still uh with that solar panel on there, the battery's still good. All we had to do is go back and put corn back in it and and let it go and get our get our cameras batteries charged back up and and put back in there. It was uh it was amazing to me that they still ran that long and had corn in them. Man, you if you set it right and you fill it up, you can get easily four weeks to five weeks out of it.

SPEAKER_04: 15:42

Yeah, like I said, six weeks is kind of the average. That's that's not putting a whole pile of corn on the ground, uh, but it's keeping the deer interested.

SPEAKER_01: 15:51

Right.

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It's keeping the deer passing through and checking it, just like we said earlier, like acorns falling off a tree. I mean, they're gonna come by, they're gonna check and see if there's corn there.

SPEAKER_01: 15:59

It takes them longer to pick it up to because it's spread instead of piled up. And so the coons, the hogs, the whatever else that eats it, they can't just go to one spot and pick up so many pounds a night.

SPEAKER_04: 16:11

They'll they'll just steal it. That we realized uh if if this thing is putting out a small amount of corn, we started realizing that the hogs would lose interest. Because if you have a whole sounder of hogs come in.

SPEAKER_01: 16:26

I didn't think about that.

SPEAKER_04: 16:28

They they do. If you have a whole sounder of hogs come in, you you've got a a big sow. Fighting over it. Yeah, you've got a big sow with eight small ones, they'll have that corn cleaned up in just a few minutes. Well, they start they they realize, like I said, they're problem solvers. They're they learn quick. They realize, hey, there's really not enough food here to justify me traveling halfway across this creek bottom just to get uh a few crumbs of corn. So they'll you know, it'll limit how much they come to your spot, which is good. They'll eventually go to somebody else.

SPEAKER_01: 16:58

It really was because we didn't realize that how good it was actually for the deer on the on the side of being elevated. Yes, they don't pay attention to the feeder, they're not having to walk up there and get anything out of it or around it. There's no tripod, there's no, you know, anything on the ground. It's just it's almost like picking up acorns.

SPEAKER_04: 17:16

Yeah, there's a there's a rope running down to the base of a tree. Yeah, you know, they'll and they'll kind of check it out, you know, just like anything else. They'll notice that there's something strange in the tree. They'll look at it for a few minutes, but I'd say at least 80% of the time, they're gonna go right back to feeding after they look at this thing for a second and realize that it's not moving, it's not doing anything. The the smell is the same that's been there for the weeks before. That's the biggest thing is if you set this thing up to where it's it'll last six weeks, then you are going six weeks in between you putting boots on the ground and having to go in there and fill it up and filling your hunting spot up with your stink.

SPEAKER_01: 17:52

Because it don't matter how much you know bait you put on the ground or whatever you want to call it, you know, uh a reason for the deer to come in their food source. If you're in there every week, they may be coming, but your pitcher's gonna be at night. That's exactly right, and they're gonna pattern you. But with this deal, you got six weeks worth of just and that that brings me to something else.

SPEAKER_04: 18:14

Something else that we accidentally learned uh putting these feeders up. We started uh uh it is something, hey guys, I'm gonna give out some some super secrets here. Don't don't tell anybody, okay?

SPEAKER_01: 18:27

Yeah, don't tell no.

SPEAKER_04: 18:28

This this is this is top secret. So if you'll set your feeders up to go off about 10 minutes before daylight every morning.

SPEAKER_01: 18:35

I'll ask you that very question. Like what time, because it matters, it matters greatly. What time is it spending and how does that affect your coming in and out? When are you gonna hunt it?

SPEAKER_04: 18:47

Some people don't believe me. Here's the thing if if you're gonna go to a stand, this is me personally, you know, everybody's a little different. Me personally, I want to be at that stand about 10 minutes before shooting light. Uh no later than right on shooting light. I I'd I'd rather I want to get to my stand when it's still dark enough that I couldn't shoot my boat. Right. Okay. But you see just enough to get to the show. But you can see just enough to get in the stand, but it's still too dark to shoot a boat. That's my ideal time frame of getting in the stand. So if you will set that feeder to go off about 10 minutes before that time, what that's gonna do is that spin cast feeder is obviously gonna run the deer off. Most of the time, from what I've seen, if there's a deer there feeding, they will run away about 80 to 100 yards and they turn around and come back.

SPEAKER_03: 19:38

Yeah.

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So if you can set this thing up to where you are walking up to your stand as this feeder is going off, then it's gonna run off any deer that may be spanning their feet.

SPEAKER_01: 19:48

You got a point of entry right there.

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You go in while there's already a ruckus going on. Those deer are gonna come right back and start feeding.

SPEAKER_01: 19:55

Because they've heard it, they're used to it, but it does spook them a little bit so they get out there and they don't go far. They kind of try to wind everything and try to see what's going on and come right back in. That gives you a window. Because how many times have we walked into a spot to hunt and you blow everything out of there right there at daylight, and it's like, well, my hunt's over. I just blew everything out because you know they they heard me coming in. Well, at that case, it's kind of crazy because you're using the negative, which is the fact that it makes noise and could possibly spook deer to your positive, because it's timing it to where I can get in the stand and they're not spooked at me, they're spooked at something different that does, you know what I'm saying, the corn feeder or whatever, and they get used to that.

SPEAKER_04: 20:38

So exactly. Yep, they law they get used to that sound, and even even when they get used to it, they're still like I said, they're gonna run off a hundred yards, but they're gonna turn around and come right back. I I see it time and time again, more often than not, because sometimes at my place in Jasper County, I get in the woods way, way, way before daylight. And it just times out that way sometimes, and I have actually witnessed the deer, you know, I can hear them down there feeding around, and I can't see them yet. The feeder goes off, they run away, and it's not a minute and a half, two minutes. You start hearing leaves crunching. Yeah. They're coming right back.

SPEAKER_01: 21:16

They're coming back in there, yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 21:18

Uh, the other side of that is if you have it going off first thing in the morning, right before daylight, you get that little opportunity to have some cover sound. That doesn't even make any sense, but cover sound to help get you in the stand a little less detected. Uh, it also works in the early bird gets the worm. Those deer will start realizing that, hey, there was corn on the ground here this morning, right? And now I'm here at 10 o'clock at night and there's not any corn. So they can't. I can smell where it used to be, but it's not here. So those deer will start also, well, I'm I'm sure they associate the sound. Realizing that if they don't get there quick enough, they'll associate the sound with the feed also, and they'll hear that thing go off, and they'll know, hey, that thing's putting some something to eat on the ground. I'm going to eat it. And they'll start coming in there morning time. I've I've seen so many bucks come to these feeders in the morning. I've I can probably count on two hands how many bucks I've seen come to a tripod feeder at any point of the day. Daylight, that is. Right. Whereas I have killed, I don't know, I've killed probably at least a dozen bucks, two-year-old bucks, underneath these feeders during bow season. I mean, that's in just the few years that I've been making them and hanging them. I've only been doing these feeders for about three, maybe four years now.

SPEAKER_01: 22:45

And alongside that, I can tell you, I grew up in in a different part of the Mississippi where, you know, feeding corn and and hanging, that that was not a deal. Like it was just, it just wasn't what I grew up on. And I probably had a little bit, I I wouldn't say a negative kind of attitude towards it. I didn't disagree with it necessarily. It was just I didn't do it. I didn't have to. We had acorns, we had to row crop ground, you know, you had food everywhere.

SPEAKER_00: 23:14

You didn't do it until you realized it.

SPEAKER_01: 23:16

Until I moved to South Mississippi. And I'm telling you, and I had people tell me, man, you don't understand it's different down here. That's how it is in Florida T. Number one, it's so thick down there, after Katrina, especially, like it just, you know, all the trees getting wiped out, the undergrowth that grew up, it is the thickest crap you've ever seen. And so it's it is different. So I I I agree with them now on that. So trying to get a deer to come to your spot, but I will say that in all of that, I was in a lease down there, the gray house. I mean, 1600 acres, we had the good beer for South Mississippi, right?

SPEAKER_04: 23:51

Uh for whatever reason, that place in the middle of a pine field had the biggest deer that I have ever seen.

SPEAKER_01: 23:58

I don't why is it that way? But I don't understand. Going with the feeders, where I was going with that is we had corn either piled up on the ground or we had a uh a tripod, right? We didn't have very many of those uh like you're talking about where it's just a a spin feeder that's broadcast feeder. And I I I could not have success with it. I tried. We have pictures, we have all kinds of things.

SPEAKER_04: 24:24

Oh, you get pictures of huge bucks coming to these tripod feeders.

SPEAKER_01: 24:27

But I could like no success whatsoever when it comes to harvesting deer. But you with these feeders and the way that they operate, it is a game changer. Like it, I'm telling you, the success rate versus uh a tripod feeder or or just going out there and piling it up on the ground. Uh, and I and look, there's nothing I ain't condemning it. I'm just telling you that I think that this is better, it just works better. You're saving on money on feed, number one, because you're not spreading out near as much.

SPEAKER_04: 24:55

That's the biggest thing, man. Like, like I said, I'm a poor old country boy, and my biggest thing is getting the best, the most bang for my buck in the hunting world. That's that's a daily challenge for for us folks.

SPEAKER_01: 25:09

There were people in that camp, I I don't know what they spent a week. Oh, there's no telling around, and they never kill like I don't even know why we're doing this. Like, we're just feeding these animals. Look, we love to get pictures of them, that's exciting, but nobody was harvesting deer. No. You'd go to these feeders and not have success, but you start raising them up like you have them on the winch, and it's like, again, it's like almost like they're picking up acorns and it spreads it way out and it lasts way longer, so you got way less money in it. And for some reason, it's just better. If you just have more success uh using those type feeders because the I don't know, I don't know if the deer feel more comfortable not coming to a spot where it's piled up. I don't know. I I mean I've had deer walk through a pile of corn to get to acorns and browse because that's what they're used to. You gotta think when we pile a hundred pounds of corn on the ground, that's not natural to them. You know what I'm saying? They're it's not like that's what they're used to. They they don't grow up with that, you know. And they're browsers and they're roaming through whatever, but the the success rate changed dramatically when we started using feeders this way. And it it it just uh it it's good all the way around. So if you're a feeder and want to put some corn out, uh this is highly recommended. You can try it. Uh use Eric's method. What do we call it? Are we gonna kick back off this? Are you getting paid on this? I don't know. Yeah, we need to work that out. Lowe's needs to sponsor some of these 10 cans we're buying, uh, putting up, but it it it really is. It's it's it's a great method. And uh it's a little work now. I ain't gonna lie.

SPEAKER_04: 26:45

It is a little work. But but look, work in work in the hunting world directly equates to success.

SPEAKER_01: 26:53

It does.

SPEAKER_04: 26:54

If uh like guys, on the on the episode that Reese put together today, or the episode he's working on with the footage from today. So go watch it. You guys, I don't know that I have ever in my in my 30 plus years of hunting, I don't know that I have ever put as much work into one stand as we put in today. How many hours did you have? We were we were at the strong farm for seven hours today. Yeah, because that's not counting our lunch break and our sit down and clock break.

SPEAKER_01: 27:19

Yeah, man, that lunch break, I tell you what, Reese was like, dude, y'all boys in Mississippi, y'all, y'all pre y'all's land prep is unreal. This got me fired up like we spend all day. I was like, well, this is Eric here. I'm telling you, this is a different breed we're dealing with. I didn't grow up that way.

SPEAKER_02: 27:34

So it did get me fired up.

SPEAKER_01: 27:35

I mean, we got a daggum leaf blower out, and we are blowing a trail to our deer sting because we don't want to crack a limb getting to it, son.

SPEAKER_04: 27:42

Reese, say what you were gonna say, and then we're gonna get into that leaf blower. Lord.

SPEAKER_00: 27:46

So it sounds petty. Like it does sound petty. Like you think about it in the Florida folks that are listening, a lot of them, are they're gonna be like, what, leaf blower, weed eater, all these things. Well, you guys have to realize, like, you are talking about, and you'll look at the drone footage if you go, if you go to the episode and you see the video footage of the North Farm, and you see it, and it's literally row crops, and it's strips of trees. Well, think, where are these deer bedding? They're bedding in the trees. Right, well, we gotta be able to get a lot of things. Okay, so how, like in Florida, you're just like, I'm just gonna go to the sand, I'm I'm just gonna deal with it. But dude, you have so much against you when you hunt these deer at the North Farm that you have to go into everything. Like, I was so fired up because I I was literally understanding what you guys were thinking as you were doing it. Yeah, and I was just like, wow, I'm walking this trail and I'm I'm seeing this stuff in in play. You were literally watching, and I'm like, dude, this is that one day, like, holy smokes, how that could that could change that. I'm I'm gonna say this straight up. That makes a difference between killing a 150 and killing nothing. Exactly. Or seeing nothing, seeing nothing. Yeah, seeing nothing, yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 29:11

Yeah, even it I'm at the age that I count success as if I see that that target buck. If if I see that target buck, that's a win. That is a win. As many trail camera pictures as I've gotten through the years and not even laid eyes on that deer that I wanted to harvest. Yeah, now if I see the the buck that I wanted to harvest in the woods while I'm in the stand, that is that's a win. It's great. But all. But yeah, you're like you said, you're literally tiptoeing through these deer. You're tiptoeing through their bedroom. Dude. That's that's what you're doing.

SPEAKER_01: 29:47

Especially early season, bow season in Mississippi. They're not traveling far, they're not roaming. You got they got a water source and they got a food source, and you got to get tight. And how hard is it to get tight on the deer when they got all the things working?

SPEAKER_04: 30:01

Oh. Well see, that's that's the whole what we were talking about having to put up feeders in South Mississippi. It's because they and those cutovers and the the the uh the undergrowth from Katrina.

SPEAKER_01: 30:13

And the amount of browse that they have in Mississippi.

SPEAKER_04: 30:15

I mean, they don't have to go anywhere.

SPEAKER_01: 30:16

No.

SPEAKER_04: 30:17

They can sit in they can sit in a hundred yard circle and have everything they need. So you've got to find a way to draw them out of there. Anyway, so back to this uh this work day that we had uh cutting a trail to this stand that we put up last year.

SPEAKER_03: 30:31

We did.

SPEAKER_04: 30:32

Uh Reese killed a really nice buck there last year.

SPEAKER_03: 30:35

Finally.

SPEAKER_04: 30:36

Scott and I both got a uh doe out of the stand uh with our bows last year. Well, no, mine was with the bow. Yours was with a rifle.

SPEAKER_01: 30:43

Yeah, it was it was chase, it was actually tracking your deer. Remember, I we had brought the rifle and the bow and stand because you could see so far from the stand right yet you could get deer in bow range. I said, we ought to bring this rifle because what's gonna happen is you're gonna have a freaking giant come out.

SPEAKER_02: 30:58

And I'm gonna be sitting there with my bow in my hand.

SPEAKER_01: 31:02

And really I wasn't expecting to shoot anything, but just so happened he got his doe. When we get down and go to tracking the deer, we're slipping through the thicket and look up and he goes, Hey, there's a doe standing there. I'm like, what? He said, That's gotta be her. I'm looking at this deer going, All right, is that the is that her? I don't know if it ain't. Let's get it. I said, Well, let's get one. So I shoot, and we got, what, 20 yards apart where they were actually laying was dead and we didn't, they were you know, right up there.

SPEAKER_04: 31:29

So yeah, they were almost laying side by side.

SPEAKER_01: 31:31

That was kind of a lucky thing, but it was cool. Worked out we had plenty of venison sausage.

SPEAKER_04: 31:36

So uh Well let's let's talk about the leaf blower fine. Yeah, we gotta finish up. Okay, the the the minute details, guys. Uh look, you you get out of it what you put into it, you have to think about every sound. Yes. I I I really I've come to the conclusion, me personally, scent's a big deal, but you cannot you cannot get rid of all your human scent. It ain't gonna happen. Nope. Because you have to breathe, and your body produces oils all day long.

SPEAKER_01: 32:11

You gotta poop up in the distant every now and then. Every once in a while that's gonna happen. But your breath is gonna stink.

SPEAKER_04: 32:17

Your breath's gonna stink, your hair's gonna stink. I mean, it's just something that you can't, your hair.

SPEAKER_00: 32:23

What are you actually? Okay, listen, so this is actually a a proven point. So in the cabin, right? In the cabin's a new beer product scent. I wear it every day, and I have been for two months now. I, after about five minutes, I do not smell it anymore. But I will go somewhere four hours later and someone will be like, You smell like pancakes. That kind of gives me this idea of like, okay.

SPEAKER_01: 32:50

You say my cabin smells like pancakes?

SPEAKER_00: 32:52

No, not your cabin. So like you think you don't smell, but then you get up in a tree stand and all these scents, like, you're basically you're going off of your scents. And I don't care what people think, like, that's what you you're going off of. Do I smell? And if I don't, I'm fine. No. And that's the thing. There's these deer, these wild animals, that walk through these natural woods every single second. They do not smell uh whatever you want to call it, um uh timber deodorant that you get, oil spice from the like they don't smell that. They smell every single day they smell the woods. They smell the predatory. So you're talking any little tiny thing that you are washing with, if you're not hunting wind, you're getting you're getting picked out. And the thing is, I'm gonna tell you this does, they will tell you that they smell you. They will tell you, but what about those bucks? What about those mature bucks that you don't see at a hundred yards? That monster you've been chasing all year, at a hundred yards, he turns around, he don't say nothing, he walks slowly away.

SPEAKER_01: 34:03

Yeah, that's a whole other podcast because Eric and I have actually talked about that the last couple years. Where we grew up hunting. What deer don't you see that are literally just walking away? Some of these does are the biggest nuisance. They're way your buck, your big mature buck, and you think he's so smart. Oh no, that that mama doe right there.

SPEAKER_00: 34:24

Well, I haven't heard I haven't heard does not make noise, but that's maybe because you don't see them doing it.

SPEAKER_01: 34:30

Aaron told me that one time. He said, I got a doe out here, Scott. I'm telling you, with a bow in your hand, she's unkillable. And I said, No way. Oh yeah. It don't matter what look, the wind can be blowing in the dead opposite direction. You can be as hit as you want to be.

SPEAKER_04: 34:44

I'm telling you, just like they they just every year I'll have I'll have a doe on my hit list that I'm more worried about than a buck.

SPEAKER_01: 34:53

If she comes in when you got deer in the in in range, you're like, she will wreck a hunt. She's been running this bitch.

SPEAKER_04: 34:58

She'll wreck a hunt, and they are harder to kill than a lot of mature bucks. Oh goodness. Because a mature buck gets that doe on his mind, he's coming.

SPEAKER_01: 35:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 35:08

This doe, she doesn't have that. All she knows is survives.

SPEAKER_01: 35:12

I'm telling you. Yeah, but where we're going with the whole feeder thing earlier, I think where I what I would ask the question is this, and I'll I'll let you go from here, Eric. But how many guys out there feed corn or whatever kind of bait? It don't even if you don't feed, if you got daylight pictures of a deer for a solid week, finally in daylight, I got this shooter buck that I want to go after. He's showing up every day at the same time, and you say the wind's right, the time's right, the weather's right, and you go in there, and what do you see? Nothing. Nothing. He don't show up. So what's causing that? Well, that's something that watched you walk in or heard you walk in or smelled you walk in. Something is changing because there's no reason, right, for that to happen.

SPEAKER_04: 35:58

He heard the door close on the truck, something.

SPEAKER_01: 36:01

And and I think that goes back to why we like your system so much because you can leave it for six weeks. You can stay completely out of there, and your your odds of seeing that deer go way up. That the now the secret is and the key is we're going back to the leaf blowers, how do we get in there without because we're hunting a bedding area.

SPEAKER_00: 36:19

Yes.

SPEAKER_03: 36:20

That leaf blowing thing. I'm telling you.

SPEAKER_01: 36:22

We're literally hunting a bedding area. So how can we get close enough to these animals early bow season where they're looking at a water source, a food source, and they're looking at safety? I mean, that's it. That they want they want cover, they want food and water.

SPEAKER_03: 36:35

Yep.

SPEAKER_01: 36:36

Outside there, they're good. They don't have to go far. I don't. So how do you get close enough to them to do that? And so that's why you make the roads, you make uh with a D5 uh whatever, you know, it it trail.

SPEAKER_04: 36:49

Yeah, so uh we we got to pick around earlier today. We called it an interstate because by the time we got done, you could just about drive a truck down it. But uh so the whole thing is you walk this trail, you cut all the limbs. Everybody does that. You know, everybody cuts a trail to their stand where they can get in there without breaking limbs or snagging trees. Not everybody. Well, yeah, you're right. You're right, you're right.

SPEAKER_00: 37:13

Most people I think where you're going to that little bit be good here.

SPEAKER_01: 37:17

That's a little bit of extra work to make it quiet. You know, getting in there undetected, that's the key.

SPEAKER_04: 37:22

So you do what everybody else does, and then you take this leaf blower. Sometimes you have to take a rake to to clear out some of the little little trees on, I mean the little limbs on the ground, the twigs, and uh maybe even cracks. Yeah, anything that that will make a sound. But you take this leaf blower and you walk the trail to your stand, and you blow out every twig, every leaf, everything. And once you get that done, you turn around and you go back with a weed eater. Yeah, and you cut all the sawbriars, everything, all the little bitty hedges. Because, hey, guys, there's nothing worse than you are slipping to your stand. You know, everybody steps on twigs, but if if if you've already moved all the twigs out of the way.

SPEAKER_01: 38:08

So you're slipping down Scott don't use uh Scott don't use lights. I don't use lights. You gotta go blind, son.

SPEAKER_04: 38:14

So you're slipping down through there and you step on a little bitty tiny hedge switch that's only about six inches tall, and then when you step off of it, it swings up and it slaps the next boot that's coming.

SPEAKER_03: 38:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 38:29

It makes the gosh awfulest racket you've ever heard when it's before daylight in the morning and you're trying to slip, you know. And you think a deer can't hear that?

SPEAKER_01: 38:37

Yep. Man. And it might not blow that deer out of the country. But he knows you're there now. But that's the that's all it takes. That's why you don't see deer in the morning. That's all it takes for that buck to go. I'm just gonna lay here a little bit, or I'm gonna go this way, or I'm gonna check it out later. But it's just it's amazing to me how many pictures we've got of deer, pattern them, they're in daylight, and we go in to try to hunt that deer like we got the perfect wind, we're doing everything right, but that little mistake that you make, so preparation can help solve some of that with the leaf blower.

SPEAKER_04: 39:07

I mean, so guys, this is this is another one of those top secret things. I have only ever told a handful of people this, and this has been this has been a big key to my success for the last few years. Uh, I'm gonna tell you guys again, hey, this is your reward for listening to the podcast. Keep it under your hat.

SPEAKER_01: 39:26

You're welcome. I just say that.

SPEAKER_04: 39:28

Don't don't tell your buddies. Tell them they have to watch the episode or watch a podcast or listen to the podcast to figure this out. So, clear your trail, blow it off with a leaf blower, and you're gonna need to blow it off a couple of times throughout the the year, obviously, as leaves fall. But get you a nice little uh battery-powered leaf blower. Right. You know, steel makes a good one, uh Makita makes a good one. Oh, you know, whatever your brand of choice is, everybody likes their brand. You know, if you like Milwaukee, go get you a Milwaukee. Whatever. Get you a battery-powered leaf blower, a battery-powered weed eater, blow this thing away, blow all the leaves out, blow all the twigs out, then come through there with that weed eater, knock off those little sawbriars, those little hedges, all that stuff, get it down to where it is bare dirt. Just slipping. Now that you're at bow bare dirt, you have no sound. There's nothing there. You you're slipping across.

SPEAKER_01: 40:29

I don't think you leave your sin as bad either. Because when you're rubbing up against stuff all the time, limbs and stuff leaning in your way when you got that trail, it's just cleaner, you know.

SPEAKER_04: 40:37

But Okay. So that brings me to another point. Uh another part of this top secret thing, this top secret system that that I I stumbled across. Look, guys, I'm not claiming to be a great hunter. I am not. But I have spent a lot of time in the woods and I have done a lot of learning by trial and error.

SPEAKER_01: 40:56

And these things have brought success.

SPEAKER_04: 40:57

They have brought success. They helped. They have, but a lot of them were accidental. Right. A lot of them were accidents that I learned things from. So the leaf blower thing I started doing uh at my Jasper County lease years ago, and uh it made it a lot easier for me to get to my stand quietly. But what I realized one day, oh, I had blown my trail, blown all the leaves off my trail. Oh, I know where you're going. Yeah, I told Reese this earlier today. This is this is some gold right here. This is this is gold. It's legit. I'm telling you. So you you blow all the leaves off of this trail. What you have got to do is when you get about, especially this is for bow hunters now, guys. This doesn't have much to do with rifle hunting. This is for the bow hunters. When you get about 30 yards from your stand, you go in the opposite direction and you go to where you want a deer to be.

SPEAKER_01: 41:56

Where you want them to travel.

SPEAKER_04: 41:58

And then you double back to your stand.

SPEAKER_01: 42:00

Yep. Is that why we went past her? That's why we went past her. And I was looking at the ground. I was never looked up, so when he said all right, and turned around, I was like, why are we going back to the tree? The stand was 40 yards behind.

SPEAKER_00: 42:13

I turned around and I saw the feeder, and I was like, wait, wait, we just went 30 yards past.

SPEAKER_01: 42:18

I instantly knew when we turned around. I saw my boy Eric, he's thinking of his head.

SPEAKER_04: 42:23

All right, so what you do is you you go about 30, 40 yards past your stand, you double back, and then go to your stand. You put something there. Wherever you make that fork in the road, you put a log, you put a few, something that's easy for you to step over, but it's gonna make it less obvious that that trail is there. Uh what happened was I was blowing my trails, blowing leaves off my trails, and uh making it to where I could slip into my stands. And I'm sitting there bow hunting one morning, and uh it's it's kind of pre-rut. Uh the young bucks have started showing some interest. The young bucks have started bumping does.

SPEAKER_03: 43:01

So by January. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 43:03

Yeah, well, that's yeah, after Christmas, for sure. Yeah, for sure down there. So uh yeah, it's it's late December, and I'm sitting there uh watching this creek bottom, and I had slipped in on my trail, and back then, this is when I figured this out, I had blown the trail straight to the bottom of my tree. I caught some movement out of the corner of my eye. I turn and look, and there is a two-year-old buck coming straight down my trail that I've blown leaves off of because and I figured it out later, it dawned on me. Look, guys, how many times have you seen a buck walking through the woods and he just freezes?

unknown: 43:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 43:41

And he looks around and he listens.

SPEAKER_00: 43:44

Turns around and goes home.

SPEAKER_04: 43:45

Well, he just stands there.

SPEAKER_00: 43:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 43:47

You'll be amazed at how many times a bug just stands in one place. Right. And they'll stand there for two or three minutes. It seems motionless. But anyway, uh, what they're doing is they're listening.

SPEAKER_03: 43:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 43:58

Most of the time, they're listening because they heard a limb break. They heard uh they heard one of those twigs we were talking about.

SPEAKER_01: 44:06

They heard Wally coming in. Yeah, they heard they heard your uh something slap your beak. Hey, Wally, Wally Eco makes a noise anyway.

SPEAKER_04: 44:12

So they heard something like that that made them think, hey, there's danger in the area. So they stop and they listen. So anyway, this buck is walking on this bear dirt because it's not making any sound. He can hear what's going on around him.

SPEAKER_03: 44:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 44:25

Just like a you know, predators will walk will walk logs because they can hear what's going on around them. So uh these bucks, man, they'll do the same thing. They'll walk this bare dirt because they can hear what's going on around them and stay alert and be quiet. So uh I realized this buck is walking my dirt trail and he walked straight to the bottom of my tree.

SPEAKER_03: 44:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 44:46

And when he made it to the ladder, he realized he had messed up.

SPEAKER_03: 44:50

Right.

SPEAKER_04: 44:50

And he wigged out. You know, he he did a reverse.

SPEAKER_01: 44:53

Oh, this ain't good.

SPEAKER_04: 44:55

And he left the freaking country because he walked up, I mean, to the bottom of my stand. There wasn't nothing I could do about it because when I saw him, he was literally 10 yards from the bottom of my tree walking towards me. Yeah. I couldn't get my bow off the hanger, I couldn't do anything. So starting then, like I said, guys, take this trail, take this bare dirt trail, and instead of cutting shooting lanes, use these bare dirt trails to steer these bucks to where you want them to be.

SPEAKER_00: 45:23

Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_01: 45:24

They will actually, you know, the path of least resistance, especially when you're talking about thick, like down in where you grew up on, it's thick. So but the path of least resistance, you got those trails, you'd be amazed at how you can cut trails through there, and he Eric actually taught me that. They'll they'll travel because you opened it up and made it, and it ain't gotta be that wide. It just gotta be a, you know.

SPEAKER_04: 45:44

See, I grew up thinking a shooting lane was you cut, you started at your stand and you cut a trail to where you thought the deer was gonna be. And that's not the case at all.

SPEAKER_00: 45:53

Well, all you all you're worried about, you're only worried about shooting your lanes.

SPEAKER_04: 46:00

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00: 46:01

You're not worried about walking in, you're not worried about where the deer's coming. Your mindset is like, you know what, I got corn hanging from a tree right there. I have a shooting lane and I could shoot that deer right there. But what about before and after? What about you walking in? What about all that?

SPEAKER_01: 46:17

I'm gonna add to it. I might throw a kink in our giddy up right here, but it's it's along the same lines, but we could get we could get chase a rabbit right here if you if you're not careful.

SPEAKER_00: 46:25

Well, I won't chase it. I'll I'll make sure we might understand.

SPEAKER_01: 46:28

You might think this dude's lunatic, but deer. I I I believe this wholeheartedly. They know the difference between your sound walking through the woods and a squirrel or an armadillo. So there's where we hunt out here at the river, there's armadillas. Turkeys make a lot of noise, squirrels running and jumping and whatever, armadillas, loudest crap. A deer won't even look up. You'll have deer out in front of you. And they could be making that, you know, those wild animals that are out there can be making the most noise. And those squirrels and and and whatever that's going on, the deer won't even pay attention. You'll see their ears twitching and pointing towards it, but they're they'll keep eating. Yeah. But now you go in there and your steps are different.

SPEAKER_04: 47:12

You got those heavier footsteps, and you for one of one of these hunting stories series, yes, when Reese and I get to come back up here to the camp again, I've got a good story about that.

SPEAKER_01: 47:24

I'm telling you, I really good story about it. No, we're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna get it. I'm telling you, we're obviously 45 minutes in. When I finally went up, uh we were right on the aisle line with northern Missouri and all, and and I was like, man, we're gonna, I'm fixing to go up here where the big deer roam. I can remember there was a little farm and and I had to get tight because it's bow season. I knew I had to get in there tight and I had to get in there early. And I literally had the thought, I I need to sound like a deer walking in the woods instead of a heart. Absolutely. So I would literally tiptoe and and fast, sharp, you don't you don't gradually roll your foot down in the leaves. Y'all think we're crazy. I'm telling you. That long crunch versus that just tiptoe kind of real sharp and fast, like a deer's walking, and I would stop every five steps and just stand there for a second. Because, you know, you do hear deer that are just on a mission, but most of the time they're just browsing, they're gonna pick up something, they're just easing, right? I would go in at dark. I couldn't see a freaking thing, because y'all know me. I ain't using a flashlight. But I'm easing in there and I can hear deer walking all around me in this thing. Like I'm there everywhere. I can hear them walking, and I just I just tiptoe, but I'm trying to sound as much like a deer walking versus a human coming through there, and you're breaking twigs and you're rolling those, you know, long steps, and you're just kind of steady. Break it up and try to sound like a squirrel, try to sound like an armadillo digging something that they're not scared of because you can sit there and watch these stupid animals freaking never pick an ear up or freaking worry about it, and you come in there and they hear you from a mile away, so what's the difference? I'm telling you, that's a legit.

SPEAKER_04: 49:04

On that note, all three of us are kind of big on I'd say we're kind of big on fitness. You know, we we go to the gym, we we try to stay in shape. Let me tell you something to to do about September-ish when you're getting ready for bow season. Guys up north, you're gonna be doing this way before. But for us down here, it's you know, we we want to be ready for October 1st. Right. Uh about September, early September, put you on a backpack and pick you up about a 20-pound weight and try to walk as slowly as possible.

SPEAKER_01: 49:34

Without making yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 49:37

Try to take a step and stop in between steps. Yep. See what happens. Your legs are gonna be burning. The insides of your thighs are gonna be like shaking. It's terrible.

SPEAKER_01: 49:48

I'm gonna tell you something. Your back's gonna be hurting along that line right there, because I had to live it through four back surgeries and had to start taking a walking stick because my balance wasn't any good with my left leg. I realized that it doesn't matter whether you have any kind of handicap or whatever, if you're fully in great the best shape of your life, take a walking stick if you want to slip into your stand and you'd be amazed at how much quatter you can get.

SPEAKER_03: 50:11

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 50:11

Just because you can't see good, it's low light, so you're kind of feeling your steps out, right?

SPEAKER_04: 50:16

Well, but one of the hardest things to do for me is to stop in between steps.

SPEAKER_01: 50:19

Exactly. So, but you take that walking stick, you could you could have one leg up and here's something to just freeze. I'm telling you, tiptoe with that walking stick, not to mention you can take that stick and it's just a sharp, it almost sounds like deer hooks, like you just punching the ground. So it decides that. I know we're talking about crazy stuff, but I'm telling you, for you people who grew up hunting as hard as we did, and and have deer that are a lot more spooky um and and whatever skittish, but those things make the difference between success or not. I'm telling you. You go down through there sounding like a a human, you know, crunching down through there with steady steps, you're on a mission.

SPEAKER_04: 50:56

Oh, that was another thing I learned from the hogs.

SPEAKER_01: 50:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 50:59

Oh uh hog, believe it or not, sounds a lot like a person walking.

SPEAKER_03: 51:04

Really?

SPEAKER_04: 51:04

Yes. And deer, for whatever reason, I mean they don't like the hogs, obviously. Yeah. Uh the hogs scare them off, but uh way, way, way before I knew there was a hog anywhere in the vicinity. I would be watching deer in a food plot or under a feeder or whatever they were doing. They would all stop what they were doing, pick their head up, and start looking down that creek bottom.

SPEAKER_01: 51:30

Right.

SPEAKER_04: 51:30

And all of a sudden the deer would just blow out. They were gone. Next thing you know, here comes the sound of our pigs. Like ten minutes later. And they heard it way before you.

SPEAKER_01: 51:38

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm I just know that anything unnatural they pick up on anything in the woods, whether it be birds turning the leaves, squirrels making all kinds of racket, armadillas out here. Obviously, we got it, but this is the capital of the world. They're they're obviously loud. They don't pay attention to it. You know what I'm saying? And it's like, why are they not? They know that sound, they're used to hearing what that sounds like. And you go off in there and take some steps, and them suckers are like, oh, something different, but this ain't good. Uh so I guess the the what I'm trying to say is walk like a squirrel. Every now and then if you want to be a killer, be a dilla. You know what I'm saying? You got to you got to slip in there like you're a dog on armadilla and just looking for a grub on it. That's what you gotta do. And you'll kill giants.

SPEAKER_00: 52:27

So Eric talked about a lot of like I mean skills. If y'all listen to this, I mean you're gonna kill deer next year.

SPEAKER_01: 52:36

This is that deep knowledge, I'm telling you. This is that deep knowledge. My man, my man right here's got it deep. I'm trying to tell you.

SPEAKER_00: 52:41

All right, y'all. Thank you so much for listening to this episode. We're gonna cut this one off. Um the next episode or two, you're gonna hear a lot of awesome stories, a lot of laughing, a lot of good stuff going on. But I love you guys. Um, I'll have a description below if you want to reach out to us, if you want to get a hold of Eric, if you want to ask him questions, if you want to um dig deeper into his knowledge or anything like that, just let me know. Um, God is great, man. Just this whole the whole concept of being outdoors is so amazing. And um, I love you guys. Thank you for listening. Catch you on the next one.